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October 9, 2013

Dear Editor Maybe it is time for a little history lesson....

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LtColUSMC

Oct-09-13 10:50 AM

Mr. Mathers,

Since I am limited on space, I will state the facts on Hitler: On 28 June 1919, Germany signed the Treaty of Versailles exactly five years from the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. On being presented with the document, Germany was given 3 weeks to comply. Hitler's rise to power was based upon long-term factors - resentment in the German people, the weakness of the Weimar system - which he exploited through propaganda (paid for by his rich, Communist-fearing backers), the terror of his stormtroopers, and the brilliance of his speeches. During the 'roaring twenties' Germans ignored this vicious little man with his programme of hatred. But when the Great Depression ruined their lives, they voted for him in increasing numbers. Hindenburg made the mistake of making him Chancellor. Don't belittle history to paint your own picture. (OSU Class of '90 B.A. History and Political Science.)

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turley

Oct-09-13 1:21 PM

Lt. Col....you left something out of the Hitler history. His appointment as Chancellor didnt give him ABSOLUTE power. He obtained that with a Democratic vote of the German Citizens who, upon the death of Hindenburg, voted by a 92% margin to vest ALL political power in him as BOTH Chancellor and President....aka The Fuhrer (The Leader)....among the 92% were many Jews who later became lambs to the slaughter.....just like many of obamas 53% will soon become!

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promo61

Oct-09-13 1:55 PM

But he was sneaky with his hatred LTCOL. He fed on German pride first and fostered a sense of the German nation being wronged by the Treaty of Versialles. He played on national pride at first. Only after he had them did he expose his true nature. Many Germans were scared by his plans but of course could not speak out. I think it is a stretch to compare the Third Reich to any political movement today because the ability to effectively propagandize is so limited.

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BushCrimeFamily

Oct-09-13 4:36 PM

No such thing as the "Democrat Party."

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Zetorshaun

Oct-10-13 12:28 AM

The people were correct to fear the Communists. It does not excuse other extremes but Communists were a legitimate threat in Spain and Germany...and later to the USA during 50 years of the Cold War.

They left the German Presidency vacant after Hindenburg's death in order to ignore the constitutional oath. Something we see being done in the USA by the executive branch. LtCol, liberal revisionism is becoming very typical, like using programme instead of program.

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PaulSmathers

Oct-10-13 10:11 AM

LtColUSMC,

Your reply to my letter is an attempt to change the subject. You failed to address the thesis of the letter, a comparison of the "Democratic" Party, which I submit is far from Democratic, and the Administration's characterization of the Tea Party and the treatment of other minorities by prior failing political powers. Although you do acknowledge one aspect of the current situation, "propaganda paid for by rich allies." Like Hitler, this propaganda is furthered by a willing media. Even though you attempted to change the subject you actually reinforced my thesis.

Paul Smathers HM1 USN(ret)

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turley

Oct-10-13 12:35 PM

Excellent response, Mr. Smathers. Kudos to you. Very good letter also.

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oluhjnb

Oct-10-13 6:05 PM

Good luck all republicans! You too ltcol tea bag. The latest Gallup Poll shows the approval rating of the republican party at 28%. Light colonel can send his blessings to Commandant of the republican party, ted cruz.

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oluhjnb

Oct-10-13 6:13 PM

I apologize for confusing the name of LtColUSMC with that of tea bag Lover Mr. Smathers.

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turley

Oct-11-13 1:30 AM

Hey Oluh---I saw that poll today.....its the same one that has oblunder with a whopping rating of 36%!!!.....bahaha!

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oluhjnb

Oct-11-13 7:18 AM

Turley, you and your 28% can sleep in the same car. Because there will be NO House. HAHAHA

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turley

Oct-11-13 12:08 PM

Oh--there WILL be a house----the one located at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.....as soon as it gets completely fumigated from its current inhabitants....a couple of deadbeats.

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promo61

Oct-11-13 12:30 PM

“Because most Americans know that increasing debt is the last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the Baby Boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist would tell you we should be reducing debt, not increasing it. Democrats won’t be making argument to support this legalization, which will weaken our country. Weaken our county.” Harry Reid, 2006-03-16

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BigMike

Oct-11-13 2:27 PM

LtColUSMC: I would think that an OSU alumnus with a BA in History and Political Science would not need to do a re-edited copy/paste from "History In An Hour - History for busy people", but I guess you were busy on Oct. 9th.

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BigMike

Oct-11-13 2:41 PM

FRAUD ALERT More copy/paste from LtColUSMC (OSU Class of 90): "Summary

Hitler's rise to power was based upon long-term factors - resentment in the German people, the weakness of the Weimar system - which he exploited through propaganda (paid for by his rich, Communist-fearing backers), the terror of his stormtroopers, and the brilliance of his speeches.

During the 'roaring twenties' Germans ignored this vicious little man with his programme of hatred. But when the Great Depression ruined their lives, they voted for him in increasing numbers. Needing support, and thinking he could control Hitler, President Hindenburg made the mistake in January 1933 of giving Hitler the post of Chancellor."

Copy/Paste from: johndclaredotnet/Weimar7.h tm

FRAUD ALERT

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BushCrimeFamily

Oct-11-13 3:38 PM

The standoff continues but the pressure on Republicans continues to build: Business leaders are in open revolt against them. And a new Gallup poll shows the public is, too. The Republican Party is now viewed favorably by only 28% of Americans, down from 38% in September -- the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992.

This is the Republicans' shutdown and it will be the Republicans' default, and fault -- and the public knows it. President and Harry Reid deserve credit for holding firm. They must continue to do so.

-- Robert Reich

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promo61

Oct-11-13 4:33 PM

Even when it comes to something as basic, and apparently as simple and straightforward, as the question of who shut down the federal government, there are diametrically opposite answers, depending on whether you talk to Democrats or to Republicans.

There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going — except for ObamaCare.

This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.

Thomas Sowell

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promo61

Oct-11-13 4:34 PM

As for the House of Representatives' right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that Congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity.

Whether ObamaCare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion. Thomas Sowell

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promo61

Oct-11-13 4:35 PM

ObamaCare is indeed "the law of the land," as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its Constitutionality.

But the whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do, regardless of what the other branches do, when exercising the powers specifically granted to that branch by the Constitution.

The hundreds of thousands of government workers who have been laid off are not idle because the House of Representatives did not vote enough money to pay their salaries or the other expenses of their agencies — unless they are in an agency that would administer ObamaCare.

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promo61

Oct-11-13 4:39 PM

Since we cannot read minds, we cannot say who — if anybody — "wants to shut down the government." But we do know who had the option to keep the government running and chose not to. The money voted by the House of Representatives covered everything that the government does, except for ObamaCare.

The Senate chose not to vote to authorize that money to be spent, because it did not include money for ObamaCare. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that he wants a "clean" bill from the House of Representatives, and some in the media keep repeating the word "clean" like a mantra. But what is unclean about not giving Harry Reid everything he wants?

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PaulSmathers

Oct-11-13 6:15 PM

Has anyone noticed that the only person with a really negative comment was oluhjnb. Did you also notice that hi post had little factual information. Insted he resorted to the typical tactic of the uneducated bully, name calling and hate. Luckly, thinking people recognize this type action. Unfortuantly, too many Americans have stopped thinking. Why not try to dispute my thesis instead of call names. I know, it is not possible. Please notice, I posted under my real name, not a screen name used by the people that like to throw stones but are afraid for people to know who they are.

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oluhjnb

Oct-11-13 8:10 PM

It is Mr. Smathers that needs to study a little History. The actual time the Roman Empire lasted is not set in stone, but the dates of 27BC-476AD have been used many times.

In 313AD Emperor Constantine, with The Edict of Milan, Made ALL religions equal, with total freedom for Romans to worship which ever deity they pleased. So according to Mr. Smathers 113 years later the "New" religion of Christianity was the scapegoat of the Empire's collapse.

"Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's (Mark 12:13-17) New religion? The Tea Party Movement began in earnest around 2009. About FIVE YEARS AGO. Stay tuned for more on Smathers Smackdown.

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BushCrimeFamily

Oct-12-13 12:39 AM

1. The best (and only good) thing to come out of the government shutdown and possible default is the awakening of a large portion of the public to what today's Republican Party is really up to. In an NBC/Wall Street Journal survey released Thursday evening, just 24% have a favorable opinion of Republicans while 47% have a favorable opinion of the President. According other polls, if the 2014 election were held today Democrats would have a good chance of winning 24 Republican-held House districts, giving them control of the House.

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BushCrimeFamily

Oct-12-13 12:39 AM

2. Are Republican supporters in the white working class coming to realize that the GOP's faux populism masks a dogged defense of the privileged and powerful? For years Republicans have used their snake-oil "trickle-down" economics to justify lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations, even though nothing has trickled down. They've described the poor as "takers" in order to distract attention from the reality of declining median incomes, even as almost all economic gains go to the very top.

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BushCrimeFamily

Oct-12-13 12:40 AM

3. Their drumbeat against big government has disguised the torrent of money they've raised from the wealthy, big corporations, and Wall Street, in exchange for special tax breaks, loopholes, and subsidies that entrench privilege and power. Is this elaborate masquerade now coming to a close?

-- Robert Reich

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