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War on?Poverty

January 14, 2014

Dear Editor, It was recently the 50th anniversary of President Lyndon Johnson's declaration of a war on poverty, and I've heard a lot of talk about it's success or failure....

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promo61

Jan-14-14 10:41 AM

Ben, the definition of poverty has been redefined over the years. Can you provide information on what was considered the poverty line 50 years ago versus now? Your use of percentages to compare different values are meaningless unless back up data is provided.

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turley

Jan-14-14 1:34 PM

Want to end poverty?...STOP giving welfare increases to these human baby factories for aquirting out another future prison inmate every nine months......the ONLY way to stop poverty is to stop birthing people into it!....its the WORST form of child abuse that exists today, but its not "politically correct" to state it. When you get home and your house is flooded, you can stand there and sweep water out the door until you drop dead.....or you can SHUT OFF the problem at its source.

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BushCrimeFamily

Jan-14-14 4:00 PM

The GOP war on the war on poverty continues.

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Thoughtful

Jan-14-14 4:14 PM

Ben, Ben, Ben

I wish you could open your eyes and see the broad picture. I appreciate your passion, your dedication and rest assured we all want poverty eliminated. We just have different approaches. I would love to work with those unemployed and underemployed and help them succeed.

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oluhjnb

Jan-14-14 6:52 PM

Thoughtful, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. Go out and help them.

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benlofton

Jan-14-14 9:03 PM

Promo61, In 1969 the poverty line for a single person was $1,975 and $3,790 for a family of 4. in 1969 the average price for a gallon of gas was .35 a gallon. The avg. price for a new home was $15,550. Avg. monthly rent $135. Avg new car $3,270. In 2013 the poverty line for a single person was $11,490, for a family of four the poverty line was $23,550. In 2013 the Avg. price of a gallon of gas was $3.31. Avg.new home $152,000. Avg. rent $650. Avg new car $31,252. Not much difference

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oluhjnb

Jan-14-14 10:03 PM

Promo's trap just bit him in the ass.

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BushCrimeFamily

Jan-14-14 11:07 PM

Survey shows 80% of U.S. adults are takers without enough motivation to better themselves: cbsn.ws/1dpX4nw

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turley

Jan-15-14 1:23 AM

Well BCF.....given that factoid,at least you, oluh and Ben can take comfort in being in the majority! Every child born into poverty is an un-convicted case of child abuse.....but your beloved government wont address it...poverty is big business in obamerica..future voters might be lost!

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QuizhatKaddyshack

Jan-15-14 11:22 AM

BenLofton wrote: "Our conservative policies are better." These areas include 1). Encourage marriage 2). Change federal funding to block grant funding to states, and 3)." Cheer for America, because you can do it... just work harder and pull yourself up by your bootstraps." As usual Republicans are wrong!"

So Ben wants to 1. Discourage marriage??? 2. Have the all-powerful federal government dole out all on the money based on ??? 3. "America S U C K S???" don't cheer for America???

YIKES!! I have come to the realization that Mr. Lofton, as a Liberal, is standing on his head and telling us the world is upside down. Heavy Handed government can never solve a problem, oh wait. Joseph Stalin solved the food shortage. "The Soviet Union’s ‘Great Famine’ between 1932 and 1933 may have resulted in the deaths of nine million people." Problem solved! "When you have a government large enough to give you everything you want, it is big enough

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QuizhatKaddyshack

Jan-15-14 11:23 AM

to take everything you have". Barry Goldwater

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BushCrimeFamily

Jan-15-14 2:11 PM

Republicans:

1. First they create the mess.

2. Then they do everything possible to keep others from fixing the mess.

3. Then they blame others for the mess they created.

4. Then they propose the same policies that created the mess in the first place as the way to fix the mess they created.

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turley

Jan-16-14 1:29 AM

"We as liberals must continue to promote programs and taxation that keep Americans poor and impoverished. After all, we are "the party of the poor", so if they actually become prosperous and happy, what would become of us?"----robert reich

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promo61

Jan-16-14 9:33 AM

A new paper by economist Liana Fox and colleagues calculates historical poverty estimates using the U.S. Census Bureau’s new Supplemental Poverty Measure. That measure accounts for the impact of SNAP, the earned income tax credit, and other government programs on household incomes. It also uses a slightly different definition of the household and measure of the poverty threshold–although one that lines up with the official threshold in 1964 and is only slightly higher than the official line today. Using this supplemental measure, the authors suggest that poverty has declined from 19 percent to 16 percent over the past 50 years. And absent government antipoverty programs, while one-quarter of U.S. households would have been poor in 1967, fully 31 percent would have been poor today.

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promo61

Jan-16-14 9:35 AM

The real value of the U.S official poverty line hasn’t changed much since it was defined in 1963. It’s still meant to be about three times the cost of the “minimum food diet” as defined five decades ago. Broadly, that cost has tracked the consumer price index. What a poverty-line income buys you today, give or take, should look pretty similar to what it could buy you in 1963. That means it doesn’t fully account for the fact that the costs of a lot of vital services, including health care, have grown faster than the general rate of inflation. Nor does it account for changing ideas about what “necessities” are.

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promo61

Jan-16-14 9:36 AM

In 2006 the Pew Research Center reported that 68 percent said a microwave was a necessity and more than half said the same about a computer—two technologies that didn’t exist for consumers in 1963. Thanks not least to falling prices, many poor households now own these devices–81 percent owned a microwave in 2005 and 38 percent a home computer, compared with 88 percent and 68 percent for households overall. But the point remains that a wealthier society thinks more items are “necessary” than a poorer one, and that acts as a force for dissatisfaction and exclusion among those who have a hard time affording them.

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turley

Jan-16-14 12:10 PM

Here is todays poverty reduction idea: Replace the vending machines for candy, chips and soda pop in public housing lobbies with ****** machines.....and include instructions...but make sure they arent written in cursive!LOL!

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turley

Jan-16-14 12:12 PM

Wow...did you see BCF's four-point post?...it looks exactly like the table of contents for obamas "how to" book on government management....hahaha!

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oluhjnb

Jan-20-14 5:16 PM

Turley, any other racist comments you would like to post?

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turley

Jan-21-14 12:26 AM

"Turley is not a racist, but people who think like him are a threat to those of us who do not think at all. We would rather just blindly follow."---robert (third)reich

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turley

Jan-23-14 11:02 PM

"At the union hall one day, some union boss from Pittsburgh was making a speech, and he said "Never forget the Bush years!".....I wont forget, because thats the last time I got a paycheck from a steel mill."----Steelworker, Steubenville, Ohio

"In what they call the worst days of Bush, I had a good job and could pay the bills. Thats a lot better than I am doing in the "glory days" of Obama."----Steelworker, Yorkville, Ohio

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BlueInc

Jan-24-14 12:46 PM

BCF just described the Democrats Obamcare debacle.LOL. 1. First they create the mess.

2. Then they do everything possible to keep others from fixing the mess.

3. Then they blame others for the mess they created.

4. Then they propose the same policies that created the mess in the first place as the way to fix the mess they created.

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turley

Jan-24-14 1:25 PM

BlueInc...I actually thought it was the closest thing obozo had to a plan!!!LOL

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QuizhatKaddyshack

Jan-24-14 1:31 PM

Turley, YOU ARE ON FIRE! I must agree!

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